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🗓️ 28 May 2024
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Today's episode of the Second in Command podcast is a recast of a conversation between Cameron and Linh Podetti, host of the EO Business podcast. During the conversation, Cameron explores the vital role of a COO in entrepreneurial success, drawing on his extensive experience with businesses such as 1-800-GOT-JUNK. He emphasizes the importance of the COO as a complement to the CEO, focusing on operational areas that the CEO may not excel in or find draining. Cameron discusses his journey and the evolution of his role, highlighting how different stages of company growth require different leadership skills. He also introduces his new book, "The Second in Command," which captures his insights and strategies for cultivating effective second-in-command leadership.
They discuss how to find and nurture a COO. Cameron advises that internal promotion to COO might be challenging as the company grows, suggesting that hiring from outside can bring in necessary expertise and perspective. He further explores the complexities of compensation in leadership roles, particularly around the topic of equity, noting a shift in trends where not all leadership positions require equity as part of compensation. This part of the discussion illuminates the practical aspects of appointing a second in command, including the importance of alignment with the company’s stage of development and culture.
The conversation concludes with personal reflections from Cameron on achieving a balanced and fulfilling life beyond business success. He shares his personal transformation, from being a stressed entrepreneur to leading a lifestyle focused on happiness and personal fulfillment, which he supports through a vivid vision for his life and marriage. Cameron stresses the importance of COOs investing time in personal development and hobbies to prevent burnout and maintain their passion for business. This approach, he notes, not only enhances personal well-being but also enriches leadership effectiveness by setting a holistic example for their teams and businesses.
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0:00.0 | I'm Cameron Herald, the founder of the Second Command Podcast. |
0:03.0 | Really quick, before we jump into today's episode, |
0:05.0 | you need to know about two important ways that we can help you and your company grow. |
0:09.0 | Number one, check out the COO Alliance. |
0:12.0 | It's for C.O. |
0:13.4 | Presidents, BP Ops, or whoever is your company's second in command to the |
0:17.2 | CEO. The C.O. Alliance is the world's leading community for the |
0:21.1 | second in command command and it gives |
0:22.8 | COOs the tools and connections to grow themselves and the company. |
0:27.2 | Head over to C.O.Aliance.com to learn more about our members and the |
0:30.8 | results, the program, and our 10X guarantee. |
0:34.3 | If you qualify for membership, you can set up a complimentary call with our team to discuss if it's |
0:38.4 | right for you. |
0:39.4 | I'll tell you about number two in a bit, but first first let's start this week's episode. |
0:43.4 | Their current CEO was taking them you know up to 450 million in revenue would have |
0:49.9 | been a horrible CEO for the first six years because he wasn't entrepreneurial. He didn't know how to build a |
0:56.0 | franchise company. So like I was perfect for that six and a half year season, Eric has been perfect for the last ten year season. |
1:04.0 | I also was such a good second in command for Eric's company |
1:08.0 | but I would have been a horrible CEO for Naomi Simpson from Red Balloon Days |
1:12.0 | or I would probably be a horrible |
1:14.3 | CEO for your company because I don't necessarily match your strengths or your |
1:18.6 | weaknesses or the size of company you're in or the industry that you're in. It's a very |
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