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Talking Scripture

Ep 341 | D&C 111-114, Come Follow Me 2025 (October 6-12)

Talking Scripture

Mike Day & Bryce Dunford

Religion & Spirituality

4.71.6K Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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→ Timestamps: (00:00) Accepting the representations of William Burgess, Joseph Smith and others church leaders visit Salem, Massachusetts in hopes of alleviating the church’s debt.(04:32) God can be both loved and feared. Examples of how He sees our efforts and quickly forgives our mistakes.(15:19) The Salem visit seems to be a gentle reminder from heaven of the dangers of being overzealous in religious thinking and behavior.(23:24) The Anti-Nephi-Lehies were welcomed and protected by the Nephites, who could have justified turning them away.(25:354) The pride cycle. Prosperity and pain are critical junctions where we can choose either humility or pride.(30:58) A brief sketch of the Kirtland Safety Society, the bank that was established in Kirtland. Due to mismanagement of assets, and in concert with the financial crisis of 1837, many Saints lose wealth, and some blame the Prophet Joseph Smith.(35:33) In 1836-37 Kirtland becomes prosperous prior to the financial crisis. The Lord warns the Saints of coming trouble if they are not humble.(37:17) Thomas B. Marsh explains how his apostasy began by pridefully reviling against the Prophet.(41:03) Four important lessons from Section 112.(44:16) Joseph flees to Missouri and the Lord comforts him through the writings of Isaiah in Section 113. A small branch grows out of a dead tree and will eventually become a mighty tree itself. Joseph is the rod and has dual citizenship, being from both the tribe of Judah and Ephraim.(48:37) In our darkest days, may we remember the image of a new tree growing out of the dead tree.(50:29) David Patten dies before he is able to serve a mission to England. A story is told about him continuing missionary work in the spirit world among the English Christians eager to hear the message of the Restoration.(55:43) God’s work will move forward.



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0:00.0

Hey everybody, welcome to Talking Scripture, a podcast where we illustrate relevance and application

0:08.0

of the scriptures in Come Follow Me. We also dive into the history and cultures of the text.

0:13.4

Thanks for taking the time to share and subscribe to this podcast. For show notes, head over to our website,

0:18.7

talking scripture.org.

0:25.2

Welcome to Talking Scripture. I'm Mike.

0:26.0

And I'm Bryce.

0:29.8

And today we're in sections 111 through 114.

0:36.5

And these sections are dealing with a lot of things that are happening after the temple's been built.

0:38.6

So take a look at the dates, and you'll see that there's quite a disparity between these sections and a whole lot of history is going on in between those dates.

0:44.9

Yes. I mean, in April 1836, Joseph Smith is meeting with members of the printing firm to discuss the

0:52.8

finances of the church. And there's also all this

0:56.2

talk about how are we going to reclaim the land in Zion? And the saints also want to purchase

1:01.6

even more land in Missouri. And so with all of these things swirling around, there's several

1:06.2

thousand dollars in debt due to the construction of the Kirtland Temple, somewhere in the space of $14,000 to $18,000,

1:13.4

which back then was a lot of money. And on top of all this, in June of 1836,

1:19.9

W.W. Phelps writes a letter to Joseph Smith. And in that letter, he informs him that the saints

1:25.8

are being asked to leave Clay County. And the leaders in the

1:29.2

church up in Ohio write back and say, it's better that we agree with this and we leave than to

1:35.6

face another violent expulsion. And so with that, we're also now losing even more lands. And so the

1:42.3

news that Joseph gets of this being expelled from Clay County

1:45.8

has got to just dash his hopes. And on top of all this, in an effort to try to reclaim some money

1:52.2

to try to help pay our debts, Joseph Smith opens a store. And that was probably a really

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