Ep 342 | D&C 115-120, Come Follow Me 2025 (October 13-19)
Talking Scripture
Mike Day & Bryce Dunford
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🗓️ 8 October 2025
⏱️ 72 minutes
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→ Timestamps: (00:00) The Saints leave Kirtland. The pattern of prosperity and pain in church history.(05:06) In January 1838, Joseph and Emma leave Kirtland, never to return. Their enemies follow them to Missouri.(11:16) In Section 115 the Lord puts His name on the Church.(14:20) On April 26, 1839, the Quorum of the Twelve lay the cornerstone of the temple in Far West, fulfilling the command in Section 115.(17:13) W.W. Phelps’ reaction to the Quorum of the Twelve and his later change of heart. Our worst days do not define us.(18:47) More stakes are to be built nearby for the Saints to come and join Zion. This brings about the revelation regarding Adam-Ondi-Ahman in Section 116.(23:37) The Danites are a zealous group of members who defend the church and want to force out any dissenters. Sidney Rigdon gives the Salt Sermon, prompting the Danites to issue a written resolution to the dissenters in June 1838.(27:19) May we learn to be more wise than the Danites!(31:18) Was Joseph Smith a Danite?(32:25) John Corrill’s witness of Danite culture.(34:45) Sampson Avard leads the Danites in many of their extreme behaviors.(37:33) Oliver Granger is to sell all the property in Kirtland for as much as he can after the Saints leave. The message from the Lord to Oliver applies to us when we face difficult assignments. When you fall, rise again.(42:29) Not all the Saints left Kirtland by July 1838. William Marks and Newel K. Whitney are commanded to leave in Section 117.(44:50) The law of tithing is given to the whole church in Section 119.(49:22) A knock down at Gallatin and the Judge Adam Black affair lead to increased tensions.(52:23) Reed Peck’s account of Joseph Smith’s sermon in October and Joseph’s determination to fight back against the Missourians.(53:49) After many Saints’ homes were burned by Missourians, there is a pivot point in the Mormon War. The Danites now go on the offensive. Lyman Wight is given authority to defend the Saints from Hyrum Parks.(58:12) Thomas B. Marsh and Orson Hyde secretly leave the Saints and write an affidavit against the Church and send it to Lilburn W. Boggs, the Governor of Missouri.(1:00:29) Governor Boggs issues the Extermination Order. 17 Saints were murdered and 14 were injured in the Haun’s Mill Massacre.(1:04:13) Joseph is taken to prison and the Saints evacuate Missouri. George Hinckle’s role in the surrender.(1:07:59) God is with us in darkness. The light will come again.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everybody, welcome to Talking Scripture, a podcast where we illustrate relevance and application of the scriptures in Come Follow Me. |
| 0:10.1 | We also dive into the history and cultures of the text. |
| 0:13.4 | Thanks for taking the time to share and subscribe to this podcast. |
| 0:16.9 | For show notes, head over to our website, talking scripture.org. |
| 0:23.8 | Welcome to Talking Scripture. I'm Mike. And I'm Bryce. And today we're going to be in section 115 to |
| 0:29.4 | 120. There's a lot of history here that's important for Latter-day Saints to understand. Do you |
| 0:35.8 | remember when you were young and you just |
| 0:37.7 | thought your life would be a continuously growing line of happiness and success? And then what |
| 0:43.3 | life really is is a series of ups and downs, wonderful ups, followed by a few challenging downs. |
| 0:50.4 | Well, it's interesting that the Lord allowed church history to follow that same pattern. |
| 0:54.9 | So we just saw the Kirtland period where there was tremendous prosperity. We were |
| 0:59.5 | dedicating the Kirtland Temple. Jesus came. Marvelous angelic visitors came. Many people |
| 1:05.5 | saw visions and felt incredible glory and power. And now just a few short months or years later, Joseph's going to be in prison. |
| 1:14.3 | We find ourselves in the middle of a war with the Missourians. |
| 1:18.7 | So like our lives, this is a pattern of ups and downs. |
| 1:22.9 | And I think it behooves each one of us as Latter-day Saints to know that history |
| 1:27.2 | and to recognize that there |
| 1:28.9 | were periods of prosperity and there were periods of pain. And we can choose humility in prosperity or we can |
| 1:36.3 | choose pride. We can choose humility in pain or we can choose pride. And it's fascinating to read |
| 1:42.7 | church history and recognize that each one of these |
| 1:45.1 | periods leads to a legacy of who we are today. So most of our podcast today is going to be the |
| 1:53.3 | history of the Missouri period and the Mormon war that occurs there. And you know, Bryce, the fundamental |
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