Ep 340 - Protein: Valuable, But Overvalued

Iron Culture

The MASS Crew

Sports & Recreation, Health & Fitness

4.8 • 827 Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Drs Trexler and Helms discuss various topics including updates on Eric's surgery, the valuable (but very modest) effects of protein intake on muscle gains, incontinence after contest prep, the relationship between sleep quality and nutrient timing, the recent ban on smelling salts in the NFL, and more.

Time stamps:
00:00 Introduction
01:11 Preview of next week's episode (non-responders, hyper-responders, etc)
07:01 Trex's surgery update
12:11 Discussion on Protein Meta-Analyses and Research Updates (how much does protein intake actually matter for gains?)
33:10 Why meta-analyses differ from RCTs in terms of "expiration dates"
44:15 The Impact of Training vs. Nutrition (for muscle growth)
51:41 Q&A: Supplementation for Lifters (and Specifically Vegans Who Lift)
55:49 Incontinence, Increased Urine Output, and Contest Prep
59:16 Chrono Nutrition and Sleep Quality
01:11:28 The Role of Smelling Salts in Sports Performance (and Football)

Transcript

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0:00.0	Hello everybody.
0:05.8	Welcome back to Iron Culture presented by the mass research review.
0:11.0	I am still Eric Trexler, always have been, and I am joined by the Dr. Eric Helms, the other Eric, as people affectionately refer to him.
0:20.1	Helms, how are we doing tonight?
0:21.8	I'm doing pretty good, man.
0:23.3	I'm inside of eight weeks out.
0:25.8	You know, I'm alive.
0:27.3	I wouldn't say I'm well, but I'm alive.
0:29.8	So, yeah, we're here.
0:32.7	100% of people who win bodybuilding shows are alive at the time of the show.
0:38.9	So in terms of the predictors of success, you are on that trajectory. I would say 100% of people who win bodybuilding
0:45.9	shows are alive, at least at the point when they get the medal on the day of the show based upon
0:51.0	some recent unfortunate things that have been reported in the enhanced side of the sport in the last few years. Here I am trying to make a lot of the show based upon some recent unfortunate things that have been reported in the enhanced
0:54.3	side of the sport in the last few years.
0:56.8	Here I am trying to make a lighthearted quip, and immediately we're going into the mortality
1:01.9	and tragedy.
1:03.3	So a good omen for the show to follow.
1:06.8	But anyway, glad we're all here.
1:10.7	A little update for the audience.
1:14.2	This upcoming episode, one week from today, is going to be a pre-recorded episode.
1:19.9	So I already know that it's good because I've heard it all.
1:23.8	So we had Dr. Helm sit down with Dr. Mike Zordos of the mass research review and Zach Robinson of data different.
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