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And now from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN, the Axviles with your host,

David Axelrod.

Attorney General Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania made big news last year with a release of a

stunning report about the abuse of children within the church in the state of Pennsylvania.

It's a report that really spurred a global discussion or certainly added to it.

But it was also just the latest chapter in what Pennsylvania's already know to be a really

promising career in politics and government.

General Shapiro came to the Institute of Politics today to speak about the issue of abuse

in the church and the cover-up of it.

And after that program, I sat down with him to talk about that, but also about his own

journey, some other issues that he's working on in the politics of our moment.

Josh Shapiro, great to see you here at the Institute of Politics and at this table, great

to be with you.

We have a lot to talk about that's current and involving your work as Attorney General.

You're here in part speaking about your investigation into the abuse of children in the church and

cover-up of it.

And I want to talk to you about that, but I want to talk to you a little bit about your

own journey before we get to that.

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