And now, from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN, the Axviles, with your

host, David Axelrod.

I was in Washington this week for State of the Union coverage on CNN, and I thought the

day after the speech that I go by and see how Kim Jeffries, congressman from New York,

who's now the new chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, the number five ranking Democrat

in the House and by all accounts, and up in Kamerah there.

He has an interesting personal story.

We talked about that, about the speech, about the standoff over the wall, in 2020.

Congressman Kim Jeffries, so good to see you.

Great to see you.

Normally I start these conversations at the beginning and talk about your story, and

yours is a great story, and I want to talk about it, but we're sitting here in the

Rayburn building in Washington a day after the State of the Union speech.

So I would be remiss if I didn't ask you a little bit about that and what your reaction

to the speech was.

Well the country deserves a uniter, and what we got from the president was a lot of being

a divided country deserves facts and said we got a lot of fiction.

And the president had an opportunity post this midterm election where the American people

voted for divided government, which means let's try to find common ground, focused on

getting things done for everyday Americans, and spent a significant amount of his speech

dividing the country and throwing red meat to his base, particularly as it relates to

doubling and tripling down on his xenophobic approach to immigration.

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