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The Axe Files with David Axelrod

Ep. 302 - Stanley McChrystal

The Axe Files with David Axelrod

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4.67.7K Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2019

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Stanley McChrystal is a retired four-star general in the U.S. Army who led America’s Joint Special Operations Command and NATO forces in the War in Afghanistan. He joins David to share his view of Trump’s military policy both abroad and domestic, the famous resignation letter he handed President Obama in the wake of a bombshell Rolling Stone story, his take on former colleague Michael Flynn, and much more. His new book, Leaders: Myth and Reality profiles famous leaders from a range of fields to explore how leadership works in practice and challenge the myths that underlie our understanding of it. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And now, from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN, the Axviles, with your

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host, David Axelrod.

0:16.1

Stan Macrystal is an interesting amalgam of forced art general who was a commander of

0:20.2

Allied forces in Afghanistan, the leader of special forces who hunted down terrorists

0:26.5

in Iraq, and now a scholar at Yale University writing thoughtful treatises on the nature of

0:32.1

leadership, including his latest book, Leaders, Myth and Reality.

0:36.4

I sat down with Macrystal in Chicago the other day when he came to visit the Institute

0:40.4

of Politics to talk about his career, the nature of leadership, and the leader we have today.

0:50.6

General Stan Macrystal, it's great to see you again.

0:54.2

It's great to see you.

0:56.2

You know, there's so much to talk about going on right now, but I'm really interested

1:02.5

in your journey.

1:03.7

Stan Macrystal, and the first thing that's striking is that it seems almost preordained that you

1:14.0

should have ended up in the military as a general, maybe that wasn't preordained.

1:21.0

But tell me a little bit about your family and that history.

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Sure.

1:25.8

I was one of six kids.

1:29.8

My father, when I was born, was an army captain, 30 years old.

1:33.8

My mother was 29, and she was from the south from Tennessee and had a pretty traditional

1:39.3

southern upbringing, all this.

1:40.3

She was very liberal and pretty politically involved.

1:43.2

My father was from a military family.

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