Ep. 296 Navigating Modern Romance with the Flirt Coach, Benjamin Camras
The Baggage Reclaim Sessions
Natalie Lue
4.9 • 867 Ratings
🗓️ 11 July 2025
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Natalie chats with Benjamin Camras about why modern dating feels so overwhelming, how apps have normalised intensity, and why flirting should be about genuine connection rather than manipulation or outcome.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Natalie Liu, and you're listening to the baggage reclaim sessions, where we break the patterns that break our hearts, relationships and bodies. |
| 0:11.0 | Since 2005, I've run one of the longest running self-help blogs in the world, baggage reclaim.com. |
| 0:17.5 | I'm a boundaries and relationship coach and the author of five books including Mr. Unavailable |
| 0:22.6 | and the Fallback Girl and The Joy of Saying No. |
| 0:26.0 | I help you reclaim yourself from emotional baggage by letting go of emotional unavailability, |
| 0:32.3 | people pleasing and unhealthy relationships so you can live in love with more love, care, trust and respect. |
| 0:40.8 | Hello, hello, hello. How are you doing? It's been a little while, just over a month, |
| 0:48.4 | actually, to be precise. Ooh, it's been going on during that time. If you listened to the previous episode, episode 295, |
| 0:56.4 | then you will know I decided to take a bit of a break just to try to reset myself a bit. At the time, |
| 1:05.2 | I had just finished six weeks of having support around medically induced menopause. And then I was also most of the |
| 1:15.7 | way through having six sessions of counselling with McMillan, the cancer charity. And so there's just |
| 1:22.6 | lots going on. And then the day after the last episode came out, our eldest turned 18. And her and our |
| 1:30.8 | youngest, who was 16, were doing big exams. And so there's all that comes with that, because it |
| 1:37.6 | runs for weeks here in England, which I find baffling, because I feel like when I did my exams in Ireland, I feel like it's like, it's about a week, |
| 1:47.2 | maybe a week and a half at most. Here's rumbling on for about six weeks on and off. Anyway, |
| 1:52.7 | so we had all of that and navigating all the anxiety and the comes of all of that. Then we had a |
| 1:59.8 | big celebration for our daughter's 18 for Norse to celebrate the end of exams. |
| 2:04.8 | And then it was prom for our youngest. |
| 2:07.9 | And then it was time for us to head to Mexico, which, oh my gosh, it was absolutely amazing. |
| 2:13.1 | We spent two weeks there. |
| 2:14.8 | We went to Mexico City, then Oax City, and then we spent a few days at the beach, San Agostolino, Mazzonti, Zipolite, and I think I can't remember the name of the other place, and got eaten alive by mosquitoes and had to head back to Oaxi City a day early, but still had a great time there, but then back to Mexico City |
| 2:35.6 | and then home, and now I'm here. So yeah, it was full on and it was absolutely the right thing |
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