kind of makes you back up from the end and realize, oh, what am I marching towards? What am I

creating towards? You know, what's up, guys? Welcome to Five Minute Fatherhood. So I had a

thought experiment that I wanted to throw out there, get your take on, Jeff. So it goes something

like this. If there was a date set set maybe 20 years from now when you had to

legally surrender all your possessions everything you cared about and you had to deliver the rest

of your life into the care of your child that small child that maybe is two or three years old

that you're holding in your arms today, how would that impact

your parenting? And I wanted to think about this because I think that this is the way that

ancient people thought about parenting. And I think the way that we think about parenting is

totally different. So, you know, we know that it's really healthy and helpful to begin with

the end in mind. And I think most Western parents begin with the end in mind of, I want my

child to be happy. That's what they're thinking. And instead of, oh my gosh, my child is going to be responsible for leading the family into the future

responsible for my care and the care of their mother and maybe leading their siblings these were

the kinds of thoughts that really motivated the parenting of ancient families i mean by ancient

i mean most families until the last hundred years.

And so how would that impact the way that you thought about raising your children?

How does that impact the parenting strategies you might use?

And as I look at the way we think about parenting, the way the strategies that we

consider or the strategies that we choose not to use, they seem to be related to this idea of,

I want my child to be happy in the future. I'm assuming that I'm not going to actually need to

depend on my kids ever. In fact, we make it a goal in our culture

to not have to depend on our children at all. We think that's good parenting. And I think this is

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