Brian and I would routinely pull each other aside.

I would grab Brian and say, hey, let's go walk and talk.

Or he would call me and say, don't tell anybody,

but I'm at home, I'm lying in my basement,

the lights are off, I'm having a bit of a stressful day

tell the leadership team whatever you want to tell them and text me later and I'll say yes

I'd be like Brian's off site working from the club he's got some meeting with the

lawyers off site today everything's good

meanwhile I know he's at home with his you know head under the duvet I hope tomorrow's

better you need to cover for each other Welcome to the Second in Command Podcast, produced by the COO Alliance and brought to

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In the second in command podcast, we talked to top COOs who share the insights, strategies, and tactics that made them the chief behind the chief.

And now, here's your host, that made them the chief behind the chief.

And now here's your host, Cameron Harold.

I'm excited to dive into a topic that's so important for every business, the relationship between a CEO and COO.

Trust me, it's a dynamic that can make or break an organization.

You see, being a CEO and COO is like a yin and yang dance.

The CEO steps in to strengthen the areas where the CEO may have weaknesses,

while also executing on the CEO's grand vision.

It's a beautiful balance that ensures the smooth functioning of the company.

I'll give you some practical tips on how to measure the quality of this partnership and how to spot

potential warning signs. Plus we'll explore the significance of being present for each other, especially when it comes to problem solving.

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