EP 262 — Robert Forte: The Real Truth of Psychedelics
Spirit Gym with Paul Chek
Paul Chek
4.8 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 10 October 2023
⏱️ 192 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
How did psychedelics become part of the American lexicon in the 1960s, and what has changed since then?
Explore the true history and the people behind the Psychedelic era with scholar, historian and researcher Robert Forte in this very revealing Living 4D conversation.
Learn more about Robert on his website, Substack and on social media via Facebook.
Timestamps
- Robert’s first encounter with psychedelics in fifth grade via Life Magazine in 1966. (6:01)
- Little known psychologist Frank X. Barron was the man who later turned on Timothy Leary. (12:01)
- At the origin of the major world religions and nearly all traditional Shamanic practices, you will find a sacred plant. (20:37)
- Why so many religious people reject psychedelics. (23:38)
- The MK-Ultra program. (37:09)
- Timothy Leary and Ram Dass/Dr. Richard Alpert: Facts versus fiction. (44:10)
- “What do you call someone who’s not a conspiracy theorist?” (1:01:32)
- Why would the CIA popularize magic mushrooms in the 1950s? (1:15:08)
- Are today’s medical “experts” truly trained to work with patients using psychedelics? (1:28:07)
- Robert’s ayahuasca vision for enlightenment and a bleak future. (1:38:38)
- Is Paul too young to retire? (1:49:21)
- Huston Smith on psychedelics and the differences between religious experiences and a religious life. (1:54:57)
- The Greek origin of the word mystery. (2:01:11)
- Why don’t more people realize that all of us are connected to each other? (2:25:40)
- “I knew Terence McKenna before he was Terence McKenna.” (2:34:27)
- The origins of MDMA (ecstasy). (2:50:52)
- “Psychedelics attract dissidents.” (3:03:14)
Resources
- Timothy Leary: Outside Looking In edited by Robert Forte
- Entheogens and the Future of Religion edited by Robert Forte
Find more resources for this episode on our website.
Thanks to our awesome sponsors:
Paleovalley
BiOptimizers US and BiOptimizers UK PAUL10
Organifi CHEK20
CHEK Institute Free Squat Assessment
Tarot For Soul Guidance online workshop
We may earn commissions from qualifying purchases using affiliate links.
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | I had an I was a vision like this that was really something where I saw basically saw the future and that we all wake up. |
| 0:08.6 | We all get to wake up into and become an enlightened society. |
| 0:13.2 | But we become an enlightened society, |
| 0:16.0 | at the same moment we become extinct, |
| 0:18.4 | because it was like the worse it gets, |
| 0:21.0 | the more people wake up, and then the more people wake up and then the more people wake up the more this |
| 0:24.4 | opposite force comes to try to squelch it and like this and so you follow that it's like |
| 0:30.3 | Enlightenment and extinction sort of happen at once and it was a it was a crazy powerful vision and I see that happening today |
| 0:38.1 | Welcome to living 4D with Paul Jack today Paul is talking with Robert Forte, a scholar and researcher of the ancient |
| 0:46.0 | and modern uses of psychedelic drugs. If you enjoyed today's performance, please consider |
| 0:51.3 | leaving us a five-star rating and a warm review on the |
| 0:54.6 | podcast platform of your choice. Your opinions matter and your ratings help us to |
| 0:59.5 | grow and help more people to be healthy find freedom of body and mind and to live their dreams. |
| 1:05.4 | A big thank you to our Premier sponsors by Optimizers, Paleo Valley and Organify, |
| 1:10.8 | our podcast sponsors Ned and Wild Pastures, and our preferred product sponsor, |
| 1:16.2 | Peak Life. Their support is essential in producing this podcast, and we hope you will show your |
| 1:21.5 | support by visiting them online and trying all the amazing |
| 1:25.0 | products they produce. |
| 1:26.6 | Please check the show notes for links, discount codes and details. |
| 1:30.4 | And now here is Paul speaking with Robert Forte about the real truth of psychedelics. |
| 1:35.6 | Today we're going to have a very important conversation with Robert Forte, one of the world's |
| 1:41.1 | leading experts on psychedelics, not only their use, but the history of them. |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Paul Chek, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of Paul Chek and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.