Ep 232. An Oldie But a Goodie: The Opposite of Fear is Not Calm

Not Another Anxiety Show

Kelli Walker

Therapy, Health & Fitness, Mindfulness, Health, Alternative Health, Mental Health, Anxiety, Claireweekes, Counseling, Brenebrown, Research, Meditation, Panicattacks, Science, Selfhelp, Stress

4.8 • 655 Ratings

🗓️ 21 December 2020

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Join Kelli and Erica as they chat about how the opposite of fear is not calm, but desire, and how tuning into that desire can be helpful.

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0:00.0	Hey guys, welcome to not another anxiety show.
0:15.2	I'm your host, Kelly Walker, and joining me today is my co-host from the BBBroad.com,
0:19.6	Erica Latham.
0:21.3	Happy snow day. Wait, you Latham. Happy snow day.
0:22.9	Wait, you're getting snow. We're not getting snow.
0:25.5	Oh, you're not getting snow? It's just a windstorm.
0:28.6	Oh, oh, oh, no, we're getting that really heavy northeast crap snow.
0:35.2	Oh. Well, I guess you don't feel so bad for me anymore, right? We're just getting...
0:40.6	I did. I was just getting the whole thing about how your insurance works. Forget it. Get out of here. You're fine.
0:45.3	You're fine. We live in the middle of... Well, that's not true. We don't live in the middle of nowhere. We just live on a really rural road, so we have a generator.
0:55.7	Oh, you're fine.
0:57.9	Yeah, I'm fine.
1:00.5	So I've been finishing up the book, What Now, Meditation for Your 20s and Beyond, by Yail Shai, who we actually had on the show two months ago.
1:09.6	And she said something that really
1:11.1	piqued my curiosity. Or she actually quoted someone named Mark Epstein who said something that
1:16.3	really p.m. Myricks. Mark Epstein's awesome. P.S. Love him. Love him. I'll put a reminder.
1:22.7	I'll tell Siri. Google Mark Epstein. Maybe you can tell us who is Mark Epstein?
1:29.6	Oh God, I knew the second I said you were going to ask me to remember things.
1:33.8	It's Friday.
1:35.3	He is a doctor and he, no, Mark Epstein is, oh my goodness, please don't tell me I'm wrong.
1:41.2	I'm pretty sure he's the guy that developed the modern mindfulness-based stress reduction technique. Pretty sure that was him. So the guy who did
1:50.4	the whole thing, I think was Massachusetts, something hospital. That sounds like it could be it.
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