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Happier with Gretchen Rubin

Ep. 230: Happier Podcast Book Club: Lisa Brennan-Jobs Reflects on Growing Up as Steve Jobs’s Daughter in “Small Fry”

Happier with Gretchen Rubin

Gretchen Rubin / The Onward Project

Education, Health & Fitness, Self-improvement

4.713K Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2019

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

For our second Happier Podcast Book Club, we talk to Lisa Brennan-Jobs about the role of family, love, and identity in her acclaimed memoir Small Fry. Get in touch on Instagram: @GretchenRubin & @LizCraft Get the podcast show notes by email every week here: http://gretchenrubin.com/#newsletter Order a copy of Gretchen’s new book OUTER ORDER, INNER CALM here: http://outerorderinnercalmbook.com Get the resources and all links related to this episode here:http://happiercast.com/230 Leave a voicemail message on: 774-277-9336 For information about advertisers and promo codes, go to happiercast.com/sponsors. Happier with Gretchen Rubin is part of ‘The Onward Project,’ a family of podcasts brought together by Gretchen Rubin—all about how to make your life better. Check out the other Onward Project podcasts—Do The Thing, Side Hustle School, and Happier in Hollywood. If you liked this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, and tell your friends! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Happier, a podcast about how to be happier.

0:04.1

One way to be happier is reading!

0:06.8

This week is episode 230, which means it's a very special episode, and we won't always

0:10.7

do the Happier Podcast Book Club discussion for a very special episode, but this time

0:15.0

it worked out, and we'll talk to Lisa Brennan-Jobs about her extraordinary memoir Small Fry.

0:31.0

I'm Gretchen Rubin, a writer whose study is Happy and this Good Habits in Human Nature.

0:34.6

I'm in New York City, and with me is my sister, Elizabeth Kraft, and Elizabeth, you read

0:38.6

Small Fry First and then told me that I had to read it.

0:41.6

That's me, Elizabeth Kraft, a TV writer and producer living in Los Angeles.

0:46.1

And yes, Gretchen, for once I read a book before you did, and as soon as I read it, I knew

0:51.3

it had to be one of our club selections.

0:53.9

Absolutely.

0:54.9

Yeah, we recently launched our Happier Podcast Book Club, and today we'll talk about our

0:59.7

second pick, our first pick was Danny Shapiro's Inheritance, and today we are talking about

1:04.1

the brilliant thought-provoking memoir Small Fry by Lisa Brennan-Jobs.

1:09.8

Lisa Brennan-Jobs is a writer who lives in Brooklyn.

1:12.2

She's written for many publications, including the Southwest Review, the Massachusetts Review,

1:16.6

Vogue, and O, the Oprah Magazine.

1:19.2

And the New York Times describes Small Fry this way.

1:23.0

In her account of growing up as the daughter of an artist and the Apple co-founder Steve

1:27.6

Jobs, the author offers an eloquent meditation on being caught between her parents' two worlds

1:33.7

and struggling with her father's emotional negligence.

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