what tastes good is relevant to how healthy the individual is, you know, both literally and figuratively.

I mean, when I was unhealthy and didn't know any better, you know, McDonald's tastes good, right?

So, you know know it's not until you start on your own journey of

creating health for yourself that you start to have a discernment around a what

tastes healthy what tastes good but how it actually makes you feel. Welcome to Living 4D with Paul Check.

Today's guest is chef, author and performance coach Joanna Rushton.

Joe is the co-founder and director of Bhavana Organic Farm and Cooking School

in Australia as well as a nutritional coach, energy

therapist and a member of the Czech faculty.

She is the author of two Amazon number one bestsellers, so stay tuned to the end of the podcast

for a special offer on Joe's best selling book, Rocket Fuel on a Budget.

Well welcome to Living 4D with Paul Well,

welcome to Living 4D with Paul Chek, and today my guest, as Penny has already told you in the introduction is the amazing Joe Rushton.

And Joe, welcome. Thank you. Joe. I wanted to begin by just sharing a little bit about our relationship so people know how it is that I chose you to be on the podcast and why.

Joe, when did you first start taking courses from me?

When we first met?

Oh my goodness, it's got to be over 12 years ago, I'd say about 15 years ago maybe you know around the 2008 I think

yeah was was it when I was touring through Australia giving lectures or something? It was. The very first time that I came to your class was you were doing an advanced Swissball class.

And that was my actual first introduction to using a Swissball.

So in that time, we've done a lot of things together.

You went through HLC 1, HLC 2, HLC 3 instructor training and now you're one of our prized and beloved instructors which is awesome.

In the time I've known you you've done how many mystery school

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