Hey everybody, it's the Hair Game and I'm Eric Taylor.

Over the last few months, I've gotten to know Ted Gibson and Jason Bucky and we always have

so much fun when we get together. So I asked them to come on for an episode and I'm so glad they did

because I think this is really good stuff. We talk about how to get to the main stage at all the beauty shows and what it's like when you get there.

Is it all the glitz and glamour that you think or is it maybe not so much?

We talk about how to get celebrities in your chair.

We go into why they close their renowned salon in New York City and moved west to L.A.

And all the things that they've been doing since they got here.

There are great themes that developed out of this conversation that can help just about anyone anywhere, life lessons if you will.

We talk about some explicitly and others are nuanced, so listen closely and maybe a little bit between the lines to get the most of

this conversation.

I'm sitting here with Ted Gibson and Jason Bakke.

Like hockey.

Like hockey.

All right.

Yes, I was actually just corrected for all the listeners.

And this isn't my first time here with Jason Bakke, and I screwed it up.

I call them Bakke, so it is definitely not back.

Bucky, Kaki, Kaki.

So here we are.

Bucky Kaki, he got it.

That's not the first time you said that.

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