Hello, friends, and welcome to the Nugget Climbing Podcast.

This is a show where it is my job to extract as many nuggets and insights as I can from my guests.

I usually talk to world-class climbers and coaches, physical therapist, nutritionists,

people along those lines.

And my guest today is several of those things. My guest is Maddie Cope. Maddie is a bad ass climber from the UK. She's climbed E9,

which means hard and scary trad. She's climbed 8C roots or 514B. Maddie was a sponsored climber for a few years and she made the decision to

stop being a sponsored climber and to quit social media. We talked about that in this conversation

that was super interesting and very relatable. Maddie is also an amazing climbing coach and she is

the head of education at lattice training, which is one of the biggest and most

successful climbing training companies in the world. The founders Tom Randall and

Olli Tor have both been on the show. She's also married to Olli Tor, who is one of the

favorites of the podcast. So anyway, all in all, this was a great conversation. We talked a lot about some of the

lessons that Maddie has learned from a lifetime of climbing. There's just a lot of nuggets

kind of sprinkled into kind of a flowing conversation. And I really enjoyed talking to Maddie.

She also wanted to promote Lattis's new online training course, which she was in charge of

creating. That is available right now, and it's awesome. I've had a chance to look at it, basically for

any of you guys who feel confused about how to train for climbing, if you're interested in self-coaching

or you're working with a coach, but you want to understand

more of the fundamentals and why you're doing some of the things that you are doing.

Basically, if you want to learn more about how to train, this is an amazing resource.

It's super comprehensive.

It's basically a one-stop shop that will teach you everything you need to know about how to program

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