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Hi, this is Josh Marshall and this is the Josh Marshall podcast.

Today, you know, we're going to get into a few different issues today.

We have this long-standing infrastructure, you know, kind of like lava coming down the volcano and Hawaii kind of kind of video, you know, slow, but

what seems to be unstoppable, maybe, unless it is stoppable, right?

But we've had some pretty big developments on that front over the last few days, over the last week or so,

and our co-host Kate is in the thick of that and, you know, spending time up on the hill and talking

everybody and following her very closely. So we're going to get into that.

I think as you probably know, the Democrats came out with this outline, $3.5 trillion

outline for the part of, you know, the sort of the grand 20 different plan, infrastructure,

mega thing that's going to, you know, the part of that that's going to go through reconciliation.

And that was a, you know, fairly high number relative to the different positions people had

staked out about how much spending there should be, you know, a compromise.

But, but I think on the, on the middle to high side of that, so there was a lot of excitement about that.

And probably, you know, more than anything, just the basic sense that everyone was on board.

Now, the actual agreement came out of the Budget Committee, which is obviously a subset of the

Democratic caucus in the Senate. It had Mark Warner. Mark Warner is on the Senator from Virginia,

is on that committee, you know, is one of the Democrats on that committee. And he has sort of been

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