I remember reading a lot of Eastern scripture, a lot of the Dow de Jing, and a lot of those teachings,

and everything in those teachings was a paradox. I remember reading these statements like,

if you want to shrink something, let it expand expand or if you want to get rid of something

allow it to flourish and to the rational intellectual mind you're like that does not make any

sense but I was like okay I'm having these looping repetitive, obsessive, compulsive thoughts.

I'm going to apply this teaching to these thought patterns and be like, okay, these thoughts I want to shrink or get rid of,

so I guess I should allow them to expand and flourish. So I would tell these thought

patterns, okay, like go play, go dance, go do whatever you want and all of a sudden as I allowed, as I gave space for that to happen, the mind goes completely silent,

goes completely still. And what you realize is the more space you give these thoughts and emotions the less they take but the less you give them the more square footage they need to take inside of you because there's you know there's a need for them to be processed.

Welcome to Living 4D with Paul Check.

Today, Paul is talking with holistic health practitioner,

shamanic energy healer, and licensed massage therapist Greg Schmouse on relevant issues of

healing the mind, a journey to wholeness, the title of our podcast today.

Greg is a highly skilled Czech professional who was also

trained as a shaman by Alberto Villodo and has been through an intense healing

journey with obsessive compulsive disorder himself.

About nine years ago Greg sought Paul's help to recover from soul loss and trauma that was a result of surgery for testicular torsion.

As Paul informed him at that time, this is your internship

so you can learn to help people with mental emotional challenges worldwide.

Paul used his skills in modern shamanism, depth psychology, behavioral modifications, dream

building, and his four-doctor approach to living to guide Greg's two-and-a-half-year healing

internship. Greg was an excellent student who mastered all that he learned from Paul

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