I feel connection to all of my patients when I'm actually present there, but physicians are not taught to do that.

That's the intangible part of medical training that you can't quantify.

There's no metric for that, Did you do well on the exam?

And that's something that comes from experience

and with presence and with love.

You know, we need to be leading with love and compassion

in medicine and instead, loving compassion

come way behind and that is really

really damaging not just the physician patient relationship it's not just damaging the public's trust in the

medical system. It's damaging our society. It's damaging our kids. It's damaging

our relationships and our friendships. It's it's it's

hampering our ability to become embodied individuals.

Welcome to Living 4D with Paul Check. Today's guests are OBGYN, Dr Nathan Riley, and senior check faculty

member Angie Check.

Hello everybody, welcome to Living 4D with Chek. Today my partner in life, Angie Chek, and my good friend and our family OBGYN, Nathan Riley, come back to share on the inner world of birth and parenting.

This podcast is important for any couple planning on having children or that do have babies or children. Nathan and she and I have a children,

Nathan, Angie, and I have an honest dialogue on low intervention birth and maternity care

and the importance of physicians allowing a woman's natural intelligence to guide her

birthing and delivery process as opposed to imposing upon a woman with

medical interventions out of habit or programmed behavior as is so often with doctors in hospital settings during the

birthing process and in early childhood. We talk about the importance of

developing and maintaining a healthy gut microbiome when you're pregnant and when breastfeeding and the implications to infants when mothers have an unhealthy gut microbiome, something that very few women or parents think about.

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