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Hey, everybody. Welcome to Marriage Therapy Radio. I'm Zach Biddle. I'm here with Laura Heck.

Today we're talking about flooding and specifically what to do when one or both partners is

prone to escalate during conflict. But before we get to that, I want to remind you about our

upcoming breakfast club or book club.

We haven't decided what to name it, but we're reading, mating in captivity by Esther Perel.

And so far, I'm pleasantly surprised by the book.

And I'm looking forward to discussing it with you.

We had a really cool conversation with a handful of folks in December and February, it looks like it's going to be really cool.

You can learn more about that at

Marriage Therapy Radio.com. I think later in this episode, we also plug our video course,

which is called Marriage in Motion. You can check that out at Marriage Therapy Radio.com,

but for now, we're going to have a really cool conversation. Stick around. Good morning.

Hi. Yeah. It is morning. Hi. Yeah. Um, it is morning and I am here for you because I know how important mornings are for you, even though I

wanted to still be asleep right now. Yeah. I don't think you were actually sleeping, though. I think

you were, so here's what happened, guys. Um, Zach and I have a perpetual conflict in our friendship, and it's never going to go away.

And he gets little bits and pieces of what it's like to be married to me when I text him.

And I'm like, hey, let's record this podcast.

Time's a waste in.

Sunshine is going away.

So he sends me a picture. And he said, leave me alone. I'm sleeping. Sunshine is going away. So he sends me a picture and he said,

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