Where we're headed I actually have a lot of hope and that's not flimsy. I believe hope is a tool to keep giving us access to more solutions that are available to us.

And I believe that human potential blows away all of what's happening right now.

I really do.

And I've had so many people challenge me on

that and say you know Ben like it sounds great it sounds poetic to say we have all

this potential but why don't I see it I said well, well, that's the interesting thing about it. You have to believe in yourself before you start to see and you have to actually put it into action.

It's not just about sitting around believing. You actually have to try it out.

Like if you're going to dance, a lot of people like, oh, I can't dance.

Like, have you tried? No, because I can't. It's just like, to yourself. You haven't even tried to explore your own potential because you simply convinced yourself you have none.

Welcome to Living 4D with Paul Check. Today's guest is filmmaker and musician Ben Joseph Stewart.

Hello everyone. Are you ready for a wild ride with Ben Stewart and I today as we discuss the

prophecies and the amazing and shocking book, The Fourth Turning,

what the cycles of history tell us about America's next rendezvous with Destiny by William Strauss and Neil Howe.

You may remember from my previous podcast with Ben Stewart that he is an exceptional documentary

producer, producer of the now famous Psychodelica series on Gaya TV, a musician,

investigative journalist, known expert on plant medicines, and more.

Not long before we recorded this highly informative and sometimes shocking podcast, I heard Ben

on Kyle Kingsbury's podcast talking about the cycles of time and the turnings, which are

approximately 20 years cycles that repeat themselves

in the typical lifespan of any human being in any nation or culture worldwide.

In the book The Fourth Turning, which was written in 1997,

Strauss and Howe described the fourth turning as a time of crisis

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