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Her money comes to you through PRX. Welcome to the first live Her Money Podcast. I am Gene Chatsky. We are in an amazing facility called the PRX Podcast Garage.

That's the hashtag PRX Podcast Garage, which is in the Alston section of Boston,

which I'm told is not quite Cambridge,

but not quite not Cambridge.

And we're thrilled to have some of our listeners, our friends, our

community in the room with us. So this is going to be a little bit of a

different conversation. We are going to

involve some voices that you may or may not have heard before, but we are going to kick

it off with Bridget Madrian. And I first came in contact with Bridget Madrian and I first came in contact with Bridget. It must have been a good decade ago, maybe 15 years ago. I'm always on the lookout for academic researchers who are really, really smart, particularly

about money and who have insight into what it takes to get people who are human to do the

right things as far as our money is concerned.

And I don't remember exactly who it was.

It was one of your colleagues who I was on the phone with him

and I said, all right, who else do I talk to?

Because that's always the last question when you're a reporter who else should I talk to and he said give

Bridget a call Bridget is the Aetna professor of Public Policy and Corporate Management

at the Harvard Kennedy School.

Before coming to Harvard in 2006,

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