Welcome to the Move with Heart podcast. I am your host, Melissa Wood-Teperberg, and I am so

honored to have you here to have these enlightening conversations to help you see the power

within yourself, this magnificence that we all hold.

We just have to stay devoted with our practice

and doing the work and open our hearts and our minds

to the infinite power of possibilities.

First of all, Lacey Phillips, it is, I'm so excited to have you in person.

I feel like I've known you for years without ever meeting you and you're so private.

You're really non-existent.

I mean, on social,ish. Yeah, and not on social. Not on social. Yeah. Truly for your, I was going to say, your members. Yeah, that's what we call them. Yeah, that's what you call them, right? I was like, I'm pretty sure that's what you call for your community. But it's such an honor to have you here. I'm so excited when Lacey handed me her book. She goes, here you go, read it or don't.

And I'm so excited when Lacey handed me her book.

She goes, here you go. Read it or don't. And I'm like, that is the essence that you bring

to life, that you give to people, to, you give people permission to do what feels right for them. She's also, you know, hosting a

huge event here in New York and I'm like, I want to come. You know, I'm trying to figure out

the window time. She goes, come or don't. And I'm just like, that is, first of all, it's so

nice to not feel pressure and to just actually be in the energy

of choosing. Yeah. Well, I think to me too, I mean, the crux in the spine of everything I teach,

everything I do is authenticity. And so like we don't, as a brand, me,

anyone, that's all we practice. We don't know any better. Even with the book is a really good

example, the whole system is fascinating to me. The structure of the book system is so

antiquated, in my opinion, for like where things are going in the next two years, even though it's a beautiful process. But even when it came time where, like, the book was coming out, Jessica and I were like, we're going to run this show the same way we have anything in promotion. You know, I was like, Jessica's going to take all podcasts and I'm only going to say yes to once I want. You're the only one so far I've said yes to. Oh, my God. Because I have such limited energy. So it's like authenticity to me is everything. So it's like if somebody's, I've never, ever been a hustler. Never. And it's what's made us successful because I think people are allergic to that now.

Yeah. And there's that like hustle energy in the world and nobody wants that.

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