Okay, I'm recording.

Hello!

And welcome to the Up Close and Personal Trainer podcast.

My name is Shona Denovan and this is Emma Story.

Gordon, I am so happy to be back.

Emma has been so busy this last couple of weeks.

I feel like her neglected child, her neglected ginger

child. Oh, there's going to be many an unhappy ginger. It's okay I live with an unhappy ginger,

so. Yeah, I felt like your neglected ginger stepchild that wasn't loved oh I'm sorry do you know the reason

I um neglected this podcast is because I because you don't make any money from it it I don't care

right no it's because I feel like it takes quite a lot of energy

and and and no in a good way like you can't just whereas sometimes I'm like do what every week

I need to do a Q&A podcast because that's part of the delivery to my clients but this one's like one I enjoy it so I

don't want to do it when I don't feel ready to do it but two we want it to be high high quality

and and like it takes energy for me to do it you are honestly like the best that break I imagine you're really good at breakups you let me down

so gently there you know what this relationship's just not working because it takes it on my energy

it's because i care that i need to be with you here forgot. We did a up close and personal

to train our podcast with Andy last week

and he loved it.

I think Andy had some sort of

like sexual awakening

just from her podcast.

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