And now, America's number one show on pop culture and politics. This is the Michael Medved show.

And another great day in this greatest nation on god's green earth it is a day two for j d vans day two

being at the center of attention at the republican convention in milwaukee wisconsin and being now

the chosen running mate for Donald Trump.

And a lot of people are saying he becomes the natural successor to Donald Trump.

Because Trump is only allowed by the Constitution of the United States,

which he will not be able to change, even if he tries.

He is restricted to this one term for which he is running now.

So who is J.D. Vance, really?

He is a newcomer on the national scene, but not a newcomer to David Frum,

who's been an honored guest on this show many times. David Frum is a writer

for the Atlantic. He is the author of 10 books, most recently Trumpocracy and Trumpocalypse.

We may be, so for the third race by President Trump for the presidency, what pun do you can't use Trumpocracy.

You can't use Trumpocalypse.

How would you describe the third race for the president?

Perhaps Trump incarceration.

But that does not appear to be happening, certainly not for the classified documents charges.

Okay, so you had a piece in May of 2022, a long time ago in political terms.

That is before he was elected to the Senate. It's before he was nominated

for Vice President. The piece is called the J.D. Vance I knew. What is it you knew about him?

Well, in the early 2010s, I ran a group website that was all about finding our way to a more

modern, moderate republicanism. And J.D. Vance, who was then, I think just out of Ohio State,

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