I was venting to her,

oh this didn't work out, I'm frustrated and she let me get it all out

and then she said, would you want it any other way?

And it really stopped me in my tracks and made me appreciate that and go,

you're fucking right.

Yeah, I do love it because if it was fucking easy,

then you'd be, it would be no fun.

You'd look for a way to make it tougher

absolutely what are we doing the gym every time it gets easy we say how fun it puts more

put some weight on that bar Welcome to Living 4D with Ball Check.

In this episode, Paul talks with the guys from Mind Pump Media. The Mind Pump Podcast has been

described as Howard Stern meets fitness and ranks in the top 10 of health, fitness and wellness

shows with over 1 billion unique listens around the world each month.

Okay, well, hey guys, hey, hey! This is kind of wild because you guys like were the first big podcasters to come invite me to speak to you and as I said on your show that we just did together.

I totally dug how much fun you were having.

And I've now listened to many of your podcasts

and I always enjoy the dialogue between,

and I've got to watch you guys mature together.

You're you move now like a

shall we say a mature pack of wolves.

Mm. You know I noticed that the first time that I got interviewed by you guys, you had a tendency to jump in on each other.

So it would kind of leave me hanging like, well, who am I talking to? One I'm here but now you guys are like

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