Hey everybody Drew here that anxiety guide dot com back again for another chapter of hope and help for your nerves with the lovely Holly.

Hey, hey Holly how's it going?

Hey good thanks. So today we are going to talk about, wait quick recap, if you're not

following along with us reading the Claire weeks book that Holly just held up, hope and help

for your nerves, go get the book. It's cheap everywhere and follow along with us. So we are going chapter by chapter,

sort of weekly, kind of, as best as we can. And today we're up to chapter 5. Chapter 5 is entitled, and this is probably exciting for a lot of people

cure of the commonest kind of nervous illness. And we've talked about how Dr. Reese calls this nervous

illness the old fashion, like an old fashion term but she does

specifically use the word cure so maybe we should talk about that for a

minute like what you know I know everybody's gonna get really excited when they

hear that we're talking about a cure but maybe we should qualify that to a certain extent.

Yeah, I mean cure kind of suggests it's more of an illness in a traditional sort of sense of the word,

and it's like a cure like here's the magic cure and you'll

never get that illness again which it sort of is but it isn't I don't know

I don't know I don want to talk about it.

No, it's true and I think people are always looking for a cure.

You know they want to be cured.

I want this to stop.

I want this to go away.

I never want this to happen again.

So they start to start to look at anxiety and panic issues

as something that you would try and knock down,

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