'Enough is Enough': Dave Ward on Fighting the Tories Back
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Owen Jones
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🗓️ 30 August 2022
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
The launch of 'Enough is Enough' revitalised the anti-Tory movement: within weeks of launching, half a million have signed up as supporters of this campaign to solve the crisis of living, and mass rallies have attracted such numbers that people have been turned away. The Communication Workers Union is one of the driving forces behind the new campaign, and their general secretary Dave Ward talked to me about the campaign's aims and strategy - and how the labour movement more generally is fighting back.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, welcome. I am very, very lucky to have with me, David Ward, who is of course the |
| 0:04.2 | general secretary of the Communication Workers Union, one of the great fighting unions. |
| 0:07.8 | Also, I'd say the sassyest union on the social media. Do you think that was fair, Dave? |
| 0:12.0 | Quite sassy. |
| 0:13.0 | Yeah, I'm not going to claim all the credit for that. I like to think it's just single |
| 0:18.0 | handedly Dave. |
| 0:19.0 | Never worked like that. We've got a great team, but one of the things we have done, and |
| 0:26.0 | I've always believed in this, and I think I've said it to you before, is that I want innovative |
| 0:30.9 | people around the union, and in our communications team as a communications union. I think we |
| 0:37.9 | are leading the way, and we try things. We take risks. They've got total access to me and |
| 0:45.4 | the other leaders of the union. They can barge in at any point. They may even come in |
| 0:51.0 | while we're in this interview and ask me to go live or something, and they do it to all |
| 0:54.6 | the officers now the union. It's a culture that we're developing of engagement in the union, |
| 1:00.4 | and I've always believed in that. We develop it as well, obviously face to face, and you |
| 1:06.6 | can never substitute face to face, but there's such a wide role for being able to engage |
| 1:14.3 | on all platforms at the moment, and we take advantage of that. That is the reason why, |
| 1:19.1 | if you've looked at some of the ballot results that we get, they're incredible. The levels |
| 1:25.2 | of engagement in those ballots tells me that there's no worker that's unreachable at the |
| 1:30.9 | moment. We're going to talk about that. First, I want to talk about enough is enough. |
| 1:36.1 | Britain faces a looming humanitarian crisis. I don't think that's an exaggeration. It's |
| 1:40.7 | simply impossible for millions of families to be able to pay the energy bills, which could |
| 1:45.6 | be up to over five grand, projected a year, around 45 million people. This is not statistical |
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