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🗓️ 12 December 2022
⏱️ 50 minutes
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0:00.0 | I think tone is important in the independent movement. |
0:02.6 | You have a lot of people who are just angry and they're always going to be angry and |
0:06.0 | they're going to beat up on the parties. |
0:08.2 | I don't know that that helps us a lot because the reality is candidates today in incumbents |
0:13.7 | are responding to the incentive structure that lets them keep their job. |
0:17.2 | And we all do that in every walk of life. |
0:19.2 | If you're a street sweeper or a doctor, you do the things that let you keep your job |
0:23.0 | and get ahead. |
0:24.0 | And so we can beat up incumbent Republicans and Democrats for their behavior, but it's |
0:28.8 | not going to change anything because they're acting rationally within the system. |
0:34.0 | If we can change the system, we will change their behavior. |
0:37.7 | And that's where the independent space is contributing so much to the politics of the |
0:42.1 | country. |
1:04.7 | It is my pleasure and privilege to welcome to forward one of the biggest leaders for |
1:09.8 | independent politics in the country. |
1:12.9 | You might know him from NBC and MSNBC where he's an analyst. |
1:17.5 | Former member of Congress out of the state of Florida, David Jolly. |
1:21.0 | Welcome David. |
1:22.0 | Andrew, it's great to finally be with you on your podcast. |
1:24.6 | Congrats on this, by the way. |
1:26.0 | Oh, thanks brother. |
1:27.1 | So you and I got to know each other when you were heading something called the Serve |
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