Welcome to Untangle, the podcast from Five Star App Meditation Studio.

I'm Patricia Carpus, co-founder of Meditation Studio, and your host on Untangle, along with

my co-host, Ariel Garden, one of the founders of Brain Sensing Device Muse.

Join us each week as we introduce you to authors, experts, and thought leaders who share

their stories on how meditation, mindfulness, and brain-focused practices have the power

to change our lives.

Whether you're just learning to meditate or want to deepen your practice, meditation studio,

with hundreds of guided

meditations and over 50 amazing teachers, and Muse, which provides great feedback on your

practice, are two awesome tools you'll want to have in your back pocket.

Now on to the interview. Today's guest is Michael J. Gell.

Michael is a New York Times best-selling author and one of the world's leading authorities

on creative thinking and innovative leadership strategies.

In this interview, we talked about his new book, The Art of Connection,

Seven Relationship Building

Skills Every Leader Needs Now.

He reminds us how important relationships are, and he shares why we all need to learn,

to listen more deeply, be more empathetic, judge a bit less, take things a little less personally, and even more thoughtfully choose

who we spend our time with and how we spend our time. He's chock full of practical advice

and tools that are pretty life-changing. Now here's Michael. Michael, thank you so much for being on Untangle today.

We're so excited to have you.

I am thrilled to be with you.

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