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This is Design Matters with Debbie Milman from design observer.com.

This year is the 10th anniversary of the podcast.

Ten years of designers and other creative types talking about what they do, how they got to be

who they are, and what they're thinking about.

On this program, Debbie Momma talks with L. Luna, about why she walked away from great design

jobs with IDO, Uber, and mailbox.

I will never forget sitting at my desk thinking,

I can do anything with my time.

Anything.

Is this what I want to be doing?

Here's Debbie Miller.

Of all the big decisions we make, what to do for a living is often the most vexing.

Do you go for your dream job, or do you go for security?

What if you don't know what you want?

And what's the difference between a job, a career, and a calling anyway?

These are the questions at the heart of El Luna's book,

The Crossroads of Should and Must,

Find and Follow Your Passion.

El Luna is not a psychologist or a career counselor.

She's a designer, a painter, and a writer,

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