This episode is brought to you by Fully Gemstones.

It was not easy to speak my own voice.

I had worked for so many different, very strong designers before,

that I didn't really know what was my personal part, what was the part

of the company I was working for. So it took me two or three years, to find the way I wanted

to do it. It was not easy. I'm Carol Horton, the voice of jewelry. Welcome to if jewels could talk. I'm an author andton, the voice of jewellery. Welcome to If Jewels Could Talk.

I'm an author and broadcaster and the woman who initiated the role of jewelry editor at magazines like Tatler and Vogue.

This is a podcast for everyone. For people who do like jewelry, for people who don't realize they like jewelry,

and anyone intrigued by

fascinating facts, new ideas and forgotten histories. So join me as I tell sparkly tales and meet

all sorts of people delving into four centuries of jewelry culture and investigate what's happening now.

Yes, I'm in Paris, and I am in the super chic, quintessentially Parisian surroundings with Eliotop.

Thank you for hosting us. Thank you. Carol, I'm so nice to talk to you.

And this is the most beautiful building with the fabulous mouldings,

a sort of classic 18th century townhouse in Paris, Elie?

Yeah, totally. It's very classic.

Very classic.

You come in through, it's one of these hidden doors,

so you have to know where you're going.

It's one of the doors that when you're walking through Paris,

you want to know what's behind

because it looks so romantic and it is.

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