This episode is brought to you by Fully Gemstones.

Because it's called a university, a lot of people think that we should have classes.

And we've talked about how to tear the knowledge, whether it's going to be for a novice or someone who is perhaps an appraiser

or someone who is an expert that might be a jewelry historian.

So we decided we're just going to offer for everyone and people are going to find their

own path because we all are interested in something a little bit different.

I'm Carol Horton, the voice of jewelry.

Welcome to If Jewels Could Talk.

I'm an author and broadcaster, and the woman who initiated the role of jewelry editor at

magazines like Tatler and Vogue.

This is a podcast for everyone, for people who do like jewelry, for people who don't realize they like jewelry, and anyone intrigued by fascinating facts, new ideas and forgotten histories.

So join me as I tell sparkly tales and meet all sorts of people, delving into four centuries of jewelry culture and investigate what's happening now.

Today we are tuned in to San Francisco, where I am delighted to say my guest is Suzanne

Martinez, who is a gemologist, jewelry historian and curator. Since

1992, she's been with Lang Antiques Jewelers in San Francisco, and she is the woman who founded

the Antique Jewelry University, which we're going to find out more about today and is a great

philanthropic act for all of us who love jewelry. Suzanne, thank you very much for joining us today.

I'm happy to be here. I wanted to know that when we've spoken before, I think you knew from a very

early age that you wanted to work in the jewelry world. Is that right? Absolutely. It found me. And how did it find you?

Well, as a child, I lived on a piece of property that had all these big boulders,

and they were embedded with small garnets. So I picked all the garnets out of all of the boulders

and saved them. By the time I was 10, I was stringing beads. And when I was 13, I was lucky enough,

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