Election Special: Who will save Britain from Reform now?
The Two Matts
The New World
4.2 • 577 Ratings
🗓️ 8 May 2026
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
The Matts reflect on a terrible day for both Labour and the Tories and ask what it is going to take to keep Nigel Farage from Downing Street. Three years ago they were mocked for suggesting Nigel Farage could be PM. Now he’s even money favourite to win the most seats at the next general election. What does this surge tell us about Keir Starmer and how Labour need to act if it stands a chance of mounting a serious challenge to a pocket-lining populist like Farage?
Produced by Matt Withers
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| 0:00.0 | It looks to me as if the one party that's going to have a claim to be truly national after this is reform, |
| 0:08.0 | which is in itself an amazing sentence. I didn't think that would ever be a sentence I uttered. |
| 0:14.0 | Today is a total rebuttal of Morgan McSweeney's strategy of, |
| 0:21.6 | let's see if we can appease the Red Wall voter. |
| 0:25.6 | In spite of all the things that Polanski has done wrong recently, |
| 0:30.6 | and they are considerable and you don't result them at all, |
| 0:33.6 | one has to say that, you know, it has massively increased the membership in the party. |
| 0:42.7 | Hello and happy Friday, everybody. Happy Friday, one and all. |
| 0:46.6 | Hope you're all having a good, well, it's a very interesting day, isn't it, at least. |
| 0:50.6 | Yeah, at least interesting day. I'm a fade in the Chinese sense of the word. |
| 0:55.0 | It's an interesting day, yeah. |
| 0:57.5 | We're recording at a little past 1 o'clock in the afternoon, so obviously. |
| 1:02.7 | And it must be said that there are still a huge number of results to come in. |
| 1:07.0 | Yeah, yeah. |
| 1:07.7 | You know, that health warning has to be slapped on the top of the podcast, I guess. |
| 1:11.6 | Yes, things may well change by the time you're listening to this dear listener, but it seems fairly likely that Labour have had the bad night, the bad day people were predicting. |
| 1:22.6 | Matt, at one o'clock, what are we seeing? |
| 1:28.5 | Well, I mean, you're seeing lots of things, I think. |
| 1:32.1 | I mean, the sort of headline takeaways is that I think what's going to come out of today, |
| 1:39.2 | there'll be lots of granular detail which we can unpack in over the weekend. |
| 1:43.3 | But it looks to me as if the one |
| 1:46.7 | party that's going to have a claim to be truly national after this is reform yes which is in |
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