What I do think about Andy Burnham is if you're looking for somebody who can genuinely represent the left of politics, he is a guy that can articulate a message that would be problematic for Nigel Farage.

Israel should be subject to criticism extending to, you know, sanctions, prosecutions, whatever,

like any other country.

Yeah.

And that is totally different from attacking Jewish people.

When the great man, you know, shuffles off to that great nature reserve in the sky he'll be able to look down on a life where he's made a monumental contribution to humanity

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First question comes from Dennis in Watford.

How long has Stormer got?

What is the optimal time for him to go?

It's a good question. We talked a bit on Friday about this map but uh and it's possible that even things are moving so fast that

this could be overtaken but um look what I would say is that I think he the sooner he

announces a pathway to exit, the better,

which is not quite the sooner he gets the Pickford fans around somehow everything will be fine.

But I think we are in that terrain now where he needs to make, you know, to set out the pathway to his successor.

And as you said on Friday, he needs to use that time as fruitfully

and as radically as possible to get some really good ideas going. Would he, I don't know, but that,

you know, this is about what we think he should do. It is now Plainers Day that he cannot beat

reform, I think.

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