This is the Friends of History Debating Society. I'm John Batchel with my good colleague, Michael

Jan, who's been traveling during this election cycle. Last month before the election,

there was great anxiety about what was going to happen. The polls showed a dead heat between

the former president and the vice president.

Michael, my information was that Pennsylvania was always going to be Donald Trump's,

and the polls showed it favoring the vice president barely.

It was a tie, according to the polls.

I was led to believe the polls were not accurate.

All right.

We know what happened.

Donald Trump won Pennsylvania and then swept the so-called swing states,

312 electoral votes and victory for the Republicans in the Senate and the Republicans in the House.

You were watching this from overseas and talking to people before and afterwards. The question is, were they ready for it? Were they

surprised by it? Were they in any fashion amazed that Donald Trump is back in the White House?

I haven't seen, you know, despite the news that so many people are losing their minds

because Donald Trump, I haven't seen it, actually.

I haven't seen anybody angry.

I've seen, you know, videos of people doing the normal, crazy liberal thing that looks

like their own drugs or something, but I haven't,

like everybody here seems to be happy by it, especially the Argentinians. They're like, yeah,

you know, he's he's going to help Argentina, you know.

Well, President Malays with Donald Trump this weekend in Mar-a-Lago, they're buddies. They're

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