Oh, nice, nice, nice.

That's cool.

Yeah. Yeah. So, dude. So we just, we will usually start and say, hello everybody. Welcome to the Cat and Cloud Coffee podcast. This is Chris Baga and Jared Trujee sitting here with Raoul Rodes from Paradigma Coffee in Guatemala City. Hey, what's up? What's up, guys? So, all kinds of stuff. Hello, say it more Latin. Oh, that's good. That's not going to work. What on? No, normal Spanish, you'll be like, Kiyonda, how much are you? Yeah. Yeah, you know. Oh. We're sitting in the back room. David just brought Raoul's wallet back, and it is the fattest wallet ever small. Is that all left over? This guy's bringing in the dough here. I just like to collect a lot of receipts. It's pretty much what I want to do with my life from now. Realtz. Raoul's the owner-operator of Perdigma. He roasts. He sources and he serves coffee here in Guatemala City in Zone 4, yeah? Yeah. Well, how long have you been open? Well, hang on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Unless, like, maybe you're like a total Barney and you don't understand. Raoul is also a former world barista champion.

That's true.

That's true.

I seen it.

I mean, you should normally hear that in the back, but.

It was not.

Picture a sea of people clapping.

And the crowd goes loud.

7,500 people that just showed up when we said that. You didn't see, but there was like, you know, 20 people, you know, behind the doors and the windows, like trying to get in. Yeah. Like zombies. Yeah. Some days he doesn't even open because he just can't deal with the stress. I'm going home. It's much, it's much, it's much. Yeah, he won in 2012.

He's also been the Guatemala Rerza champion, what, three years?

Four years. Four years.

Sorry, my bad.

Who counts?

I mean, who counts, right?

That's why you opened up in Zone 4 because you won four years?

Yeah, I mean, that was the point of it.

Like, actually, like, yeah.

Yeah. Of course. Yeah, see. Yeah. Of course. I mean, I was trying to do that basically because... Yeah, so next time I'm going to open a cafe in Zone 5, you know? Oh, if you know what I'm saying. Don't call it a comeback. Stacking them up. I've been here for years.

No, but we've been open right now.

It's almost eight months.

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