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Today is Monday, October 16th, 2023 and I'm the host of the show, Kara Santa Maria.

Oh gosh, we're only three days shy of my 40th birthday.

It's a big one.

I'm coping, I promise I'm coping I'm coping I'm coping this isn't about me this is about my guest

this week so let's just switch gears immediately and dive right in.

I am really excited that I had the opportunity

to chat with an award-winning environmental journalist

and author named Gloria Dickie.

Her work has appeared literally everywhere that you read

interesting science and environmental reporting. We're talking New York Times,

the Guardian, the Atlantic, Nat Geo, Wired, Siam, you know, gosh, everywhere, everywhere you can imagine,

Pacific Standard.

And now she is actually working as a global climate and environment correspondent for Reuters and she's based in London.

Her book is just so fascinating.

I love the conversation that we had.

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