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It's called The Beat. And it's a five day a week expert show on how to grow a greener thumb hosted by yours truly, Kevin Espiritu, the founder of Epic Gardening.

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and I'm the host of the show,

Kara Santa Maria, your 40-year-old host.

I'm trying to just own it.

You know, this is a big one.

It's a very psychologically interesting birthday and I'm just trying to own it and just get used to it.

I'm still kind of out and about on my travels celebrating the completion of my PhD before I get back into the

grind and start my post-doc.

And so I'm pre-recording this intro, but it is, I think, the second to last of the pre-recorded intros.

I wanted to make sure that you guys had plenty of content while I was away, and I will be

back soon, and we will be diving into all new episodes.

This one is fascinating. I know I say that about all of them, because they all are. But I have the opportunity to speak with Dr. Jessica Pierce. She is a bioethicist. She kind of historically focused on

interconnections between health and health care and ecosystems, but her

career has taken a bit of a shift and now she writes quite a bit about human animal

relationships, especially the obligations that come into play when caring for and living

with companion animals. She's, you know, interested. caring for

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