The following is an Operation Podcast production.

So DEI is seemingly going away.

I know.

What's your stance on that? How do you feel about that?

So my initial reaction is like, you're missing out.

It's really sad.

And diversity and inclusion is so important.

If we hire the same people with the same background and the same skill set into every role,

nothing's going to be innovated.

Everything's going to stay the same skill set into every role. Nothing's going to be innovative. Everything's

going to stay the same. And so I do feel like there's those, I don't know what I want to call them,

bad boys in business who are trying to still keep it in. But yeah, it's really sad. I think there's a way

to look at this in it through a different lens. I think I think some people feel like oh if I put the DEI lens on that means I just have to hire more women.

I think or you know we have to hire people from different countries but it's like let's look at it in a different.

Let's like paint a broader picture and I think it's like diversity could be just eliminating bias from your recruitment process and eliminating bias in the way we look at people.

Like I think it can still be diversity of thought and, like, hiring people from different backgrounds.

Maybe it was hurting your bottom line.

Maybe you weren't finding the qualified people that you needed

to deliver your product and services.

So I will say to that, ultimately, at the end of the day,

you need to hire the best person for the job.

Hi, I'm Colleen Pelly.

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