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E389. Why the Word "Antisemitism" No Longer Works | Adam Louis-Klein - Walk-Ins Welcome

Walk-Ins Welcome with Bridget Phetasy

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🗓️ 7 May 2026

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Bridget Phetasy sits down with Adam Louis-Klein, anthropologist and founder of the Movement Against Antizionism (MAAZ), to examine why the word "antisemitism" has stopped working — and what language we actually need to name and confront the Israel hatred spreading across campuses, media, and institutions. Klein traces antizionism from its roots in Nazi and Soviet propaganda through its capture of Western academia, explains how it functions as a libel machine resistant to any counterevidence, ...

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0:00.0

All right. I'm with Adam Louis Klein, everybody. Welcome to Walkins. Welcome. Thank you for being here.

0:07.0

It's a pleasure. I've been wanting to talk to you for a while, actually. Just really fascinated with the work you're doing and the work you've done. Importantly, you lived in the Amazon. It seems like not many people in our space have actually

0:24.1

lived in the Amazon and on the ground with indigenous tribes. And I want to start there with you,

0:31.8

actually, since that is where it seems like your story starts a bit in terms of where we are now.

0:40.0

Yeah, I mean, exactly. That's where it all began. I did not expect whatsoever to be speaking

0:45.0

in public about anti-Zionism or even really Israel-related issues. It wasn't something I had

0:50.3

spoken about vocally in the past. I'm doing a PhD in anthropology. I went to study with

0:55.8

an indigenous tribe in Colombia, and I lived with them for about six months, studying their

1:00.8

cosmology, their history, their myths. I lived in a small, they called it the health post.

1:05.6

It was a little shack where they put the Blancos and the whites, the foreigners who'd come to

1:10.2

the village. They put me there,

1:12.0

and every day I'd walk to the center of the village where there was a little pavilion, and I'd

1:16.3

sit with the elders, and I'd listen to their stories about their history of migration across

1:21.4

the Amazon, and I understood who they were as a people and who they, you know, what their identity was.

1:27.9

And then it was on October 9th, actually.

1:29.9

I'd been in the village for about three months without any phone, any computer, just

1:34.9

completely off the grid.

1:36.6

And I returned to a small town still on the Amazon.

1:39.5

And I got internet for the first time in three months.

1:42.4

And the millennial that I am, the first thing I did

1:45.2

was I went on to Facebook. And the first thing I saw was news of the October 7th massacre,

1:52.4

images of people at the Nova Music Festival running away and the dust behind them. And I just suddenly

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