I'm with Freya India, everybody. Welcome to Watkins, welcome. Thank you for having me. Thank you for being

here. I'm obsessed with your book, actually. Everyone, go buy it. It's called girls. Thank you.

Great. Registered. Yeah. What is that? Yeah, that's very clever of you. Tell me about,

it's very strange reading this book as a mother of a daughter and also terrifying.

Yeah. It's not a comforting read. We're putting her at home school. We're not letting her interact.

It's hard too because even like the neighbor kids, they're a little bit older and they were all playing the other day just out in our front yard and like the the kids who are exposed to the internet

and public school and stuff like that they're like dropping F bombs and they're like six years old

I was like oh how do I you can't you know there's that expression like you can't prepare, you have to prepare your child for the road, not the road for your child or whatever. Yeah. But I like want to put her in a bubble after reading your book. Yeah, there's something really, I have been guilty definitely of being very dismissive. Your book has done what you sought to do.

As you said in the beginning of your book, you were hoping that it would kind of speak to people

like me who can be somewhat dismissive and be like, ah, everybody goes through puberty.

Everybody goes through adolescence. It's not that different. And reading your book, I was like, ah, everybody goes through puberty. Everybody goes through adolescence. It's not,

it's not that different. And reading your book, I was like, no, this is actually very different.

So tell me about what inspired you to put this. I mean, it must have been hard to kind of go through

this. Yeah. I mean, I guess what did inspire me is that is adults saying to me, this is nothing new? Mm-hmm. So as I was growing up, I just felt like I'm the only person who can't cope with some of this stuff. Yeah. And as I say in the book, over and over, I kept sort of going inwards and then criticizing myself. Mm-hmm. So why can't I cope with modern relationships

and social media and all of these things? And the adults were trying to reassure me by saying

this is nothing new. But I was thinking this is new because all of your advice is kind of outdated

for the problems that I'm going through. But I actually had the same perspective as you.

I thought that my generation were sort of snowflakes.

And that's where I started.

I started thinking like there is something wrong with us.

And then I mapped out everything that has changed since the 2010s.

And I actually ended up thinking,

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