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That's kind of conversation to your soul.

That's conversation to prestige. I'm Danny Bessner, here as always with my friend and comrade, Derek Davidson.

And we're very excited to welcome back to the podcast today, my old friend, Udi Greenberg. We've done a ton of episodes with Udi and he has become, I don't know, perhaps much to his chagrin, our Israel desk. But before we jump in, I did want to make an announcement. We have a series coming out called Mark's Prestige.

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All right, Udi, back to the topic at hand, and that is Israel, broadly speaking,

and particularly Israel and the war in Iran, of course.

So I think the first question, and this has, I think, been getting some play in the United States,

which is what does the ordinary Israeli citizen think about this

war and why do they think what they think? A broad question, feel free to take it in any direction

you would like. Well, thanks for having me, first of all. So broadly speaking, like any military

operation in the history of Israel over the last few decades,

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