Chi-creative, Chi masters.

There's lots of different types of spiritual discourses.

Most of them just try to lift you up, but there's something holding you down.

That's why we go to church on Sundays and synagogues and so on,

to have some types of freedom from the everyday stuff that holds us down.

Real spirituality,

spirituality that isn't just a day or a moment or some sacred situation or time is when you pay

attention to not what can bring you up but what's holding you down because if all you try

to do is stretch your way up because you're tired you lost you're down and you feel the energy spiritual energy

picking you up if you haven't noticed it's going back down during your day during your relationships

during your finances during the everyday stuff that you deal with and sometimes it's not even everyday stuff it's those unique really intense situations that life puts you through that is where spirituality is

it's not just in the moments of being able to pick yourself up. That's

very inspiring. It's wonderful. It's why do you go back down? If you want to go to God,

if you want to really, really devote yourself to experience what the great ones have

experienced, with Christ taught, the Buddha taught,

what all the great teachings teach.

You have to pay attention to what's holding you down,

not just what can temporarily bring you up.

So we've often talked about it being a stairway to heaven

instead of a leap.

People do drugs, people do intense meditations, people go to holy places.

They have these intense experiences, but they don't last. I don't know whether you know that or not.

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