What's going on people? Uh, welcome to another episode of The Vile Files. I'm Nick feeling like mixing it up and just saying hi differently. How are you doing, Chrissy?

I'm great. Yeah. Um, I don't know, man, you know, like, hey, listen, if they say if you're, if you're not changing and growing, you're getting stale and dying. So I mean, there it is. That's what we're doing here. Um, thanks for listening guys. Thanks for tuning in as always. Uh, we got a great episode lined up for you. Um, some really fun collars and quite honestly. I think I, uh, I'm an absolute rock star with my answers today.

So, uh, your whipped cream is the best. Yeah, there you go. Say no more. Say no more. Um, but before we get to this episode, I do want to let you guys know and inform you that unfortunately Garrett and Becca will not be on, uh, this week's episode of The Vile Files. And, um, I knew that might be a possibility, but I wanted to, uh, explain why, um, that, that didn't happen.

Ultimately, uh, Garrett decided not to just just give some context. Uh, again, I appreciate Garrett getting back to me after I was critical, uh, of his post on his Instagram. I reached out to him on The Vile Files Instagram and, and offered him an opportunity to come on The Vile Files.

And he got back to me pretty quickly and said he was open to it. And he, he want to know what some questions I had. And I said, you know what, maybe it makes sense for us to jump on a call and, and see if it makes sense for us to do because I also wanted in fairness to him.

Set some expectations of what I wanted a conversation to be about. Um, we were an agreement that neither of us wanted to have some sort of argument over a podcast. I didn't think that was going to be productive.

Ultimately, as, uh, you know, the host of the show, I want all our conversations to be productive and empowering and, and I don't mind tension on the show, but I also wanted to have direction.

You know, like, having different points of view and then having that conversation, ending by simply just saying, will we agree to disagree? I didn't think is, is productive.

And so, and, and Garrett was on the same page there. So, uh, Garrett gave me a call and, and Becca was on that call as well. And it was a, it was a good conversation. And, um, you know, I, I was hoping I said to them, listen, I want to address, you know, my criticism of, of Garrett's post and then have a conversation about that.

Um, but I also, it'd be fun to have Garrett and Becca on and talk about, you know, as a couple having different beliefs, um, whether it's political or, or whatnot. I think that happens a lot in our world today. And, um, I said that it could be potentially great. And they were open to that.

As far as, um, the stuff I wanted to talk about with Garrett, um, you know, I, I started off by saying, listen, I want to make it clear that, um, I'm very thankful of the police.

Uh, you're not, that's not a discussion. I think we need to have in terms of our appreciation for law enforcement. Obviously, there's a lot going on in our world today.

Um, there's a lot of information and a lot of opinions about police right now, but there are a lot of wonderful police officers.

Uh, my brother, my brother, as I mentioned, um, so that's not a discussion. I felt like we needed to have. So I didn't want him to come on him and him have to be like the person who was, um,

uh, stumping for, for police officers, men and women. And I was the person who was, you know, stumping for, um, minorities and, and Black Lives Matter. Cause to me, that wasn't the argument, right? The, as I explained to Garrett.

And at that point, I hadn't listened to Rachel's in Becca's podcast, which I recommend people do. I think it was really great. I think Rachel was wonderful. And she made a lot of great points. But, uh, Becca kind of mentioned some of the things they talked about.

And I said, Garrett, I wanted to, you know, um, to me, it's more about the optics of it all, right?

Yeah.

As Rachel did point out our podcast and I didn't notice at the time, but I said to him, like, listen, Garrett, the reality is, is that, um,

you've been under fire in the past by some of the things that you liked and, and, and posted, I don't know if you posted, but liked and,

that was offensive to some people, right? Um, and I said to him, you know, you've talked a lot about growth. You've talked a lot about how you've learned.

Um, and I don't know you that well, but I'd like to, you know, I'd like to have a discussion about that because the optics look like that you say you've learned, you've done this internal thinking,

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