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The Viall Files

E111 Penn Jillette on Breaking Up in Hawaii

The Viall Files

Nick Viall

Society & Culture, Relationships, After Shows, Tv & Film

424.2K Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2020

⏱️ 117 minutes

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Summary

Today, Penn Jillette of Penn and Teller joins us. But first, we discuss that photo of Pilot Pete and Kelley! What does Nick think of them hanging out? Then, Penn tells us about why he always questions social norms, Nick and Penn discuss how to avoid an “us vs. them" mentality, and Penn shares why he prefers to break up on vacation.


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0:00.0

What's going on everybody? Happy Wednesday. Hope you're staying inside being safe. I'm Nick joined by my

0:18.2

producer, Richelle. Hello. And finally, we are getting to the episode of Pendulette that

0:25.3

we've promised you for so long. You know, it was one of those funny things where, you know,

0:30.7

the end of the bachelor and, you know, coronavirus, you know, certain guests became available that

0:38.3

were time sensitive. My conversation with Penn, like I said last week, is timeless in a sense that

0:46.2

Penn's been around for a while and he's such a fascinating person. We talk about so many different

0:52.4

things. And yeah, I think you'll just enjoy hearing his perspective on life and the stories he

0:58.9

tells. When did you say, Richelle? Yeah, he's a very strong opinion on religion. Religion? Yeah.

1:07.5

Yeah, you may not agree. I mean, I didn't even know what I thought, but it was just fascinating

1:11.7

to hear his point of view. And, you know, that's the thing. On this show, and I do at least, I

1:19.3

encourage all different points of view. Just so I think it's the world's a better place when we

1:24.5

are open to listening to ideas. It doesn't mean you have to agree with it. It doesn't mean you

1:28.9

have to support it, but it gets you thinking. And when we think, usually people become better for it.

1:36.8

So anyways, anything going on with you with an open mind. Yeah. But it's certainly fascinating.

1:43.4

He's got some great stories. And I think you guys will enjoy it. Oh my god, we got to talk about

1:48.1

Peter because it doesn't feel real. It doesn't feel like it's actually happening.

1:52.4

That what the him being spotted with Kelly. Spotted. He was carrying her over his helicopter and

1:59.2

during a pandemic. I got to say a lot of weird things about that photo.

2:08.3

From the fact that they are hanging out. Do you think she was hanging out with him when you

2:15.6

I truly don't know. I mean, honestly, I met Kelly at Chris Harrison's event literally right

2:22.4

before social distancing happened. Yeah. And I posted that picture with Kelly, which like,

2:31.8

Kelly, we're like, hey, let's do this picture because a lot of people suggest that

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