What is going on everybody? Happy Monday to you all. Hope you are all staying safe and healthy

as we embark on these strange times. Great episode today for you. I am joined by my

friend Kathy Kelly who who has joined us on about the recap episode. Yes. That was so much fun.

Too long ago. Yeah, it was fun. She also watched the finale with you. She did watch the finale.

That was intense. It was intense. Like, it didn't really, I mean, I knew how I felt in the moment,

but just how everyone else was processing what we were seeing. It was truly never seen before.

The biggest victim in any season or a villain in any season of the bachelor being a mother

of a contestant. Wild. We are expecting to have barbed on this podcast. We haven't recorded that

yet. We were recording this before we have barbed, but I am looking forward to sitting down with

her. I'm looking forward to listening to that. That'll be interesting. Learning her point of view.

It should be fascinating, but I wanted to have Kathy come on just because she's smart and

interesting and has her own dating stories of which she can give perspective to. Kathy, if for

those of you who don't know, has been killing it in the end of the entertainment industry for

some time. I know we mentioned that she was part of the OG bachelor podcast with the afterbuzz.

Podcasts are cool. The past couple of years you've been working with the WWE.

Yeah, I was at WWE for four years and recently moved back to Los Angeles from Stanford,

Connecticut and Brooklyn, New York where I was living. You were living in Brooklyn?

Yeah, I was living in Brooklyn. I was living in Green Point and then in Williamsburg.

The last couple of years I was out there and I loved it, but all of my friends and family are out

here. Are they? Yeah. So you enjoyed your time, though? Yeah, I work wise or life wise.

I mean, I love the transition, honestly, moving because I got this opportunity,

had to move, pack up all of my stuff within 72 hours to move across the country,

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