Bill Kristol: Limp Opposition

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The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

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🗓️ 30 June 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Thom Tillis finally showed some backbone and opposed Trump—because of the giant Medicaid cuts in the Big Fugly Bill—but now he has to self-deport from the Senate. Meanwhile, the bill funds a giant internal police force for Trump, and gives a handout to the Dr. Strangeloves of Silicon Valley who don't want AI regulated. It would also cripple wind and solar energy, which even the ex-shadow president says is insane and destructive. Plus, ICE's racial and ethnic targeting, the plutocrats are the biggest suck-ups, and Peter Thiel—the man who gave us JD Vance—isn't sure he wants the human race to continue.

Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller.
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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. Delighted to be here in person
0:18.1	with Bill Crystal on Monday. I was up in D.C. for some meetings.
0:21.2	I snuck in a car seat headrest concert on Saturday. You're a big car seat headrest man, right, Bill? I wouldn't even ask. I'm scared to even, I'm terrified to even ask, is car seat headrest one thing or two things? Or three things? It's a one. It's a band. It's a Virginia, local guy. Will Toledo.
0:17.4	Yeah, it's really good.
0:19.6	Folk music?
0:20.9	Not exactly, I wouldn't say. Kind of like a gloomy rock. It's good. Gloomy's good. It fit my mood. I wonder, before we get into the news, the real news, you were doing a big fan of the Bezos wedding coverage this weekend. Following it minutes a minute, everybody. I was just fascinated. Everybody's outfits.
0:57.7	Yeah, I had a lot of thoughts about the outfits. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I guess it was in Venice. That's all I know about it. Yeah, I gotta tell you, nothing has happened to make me more pro-Zerun
0:55.5	in the last month than the Bezos wedding.
0:58.8	I know I saw you announced
1:12.7	your anti-ante-Zoron. And I've got to tell you, the more I see of Jeff Bezos, the more
1:18.4	Zoron curious I start to get, which I know is a wrong impulse, but I have to be honest about my
1:23.6	feelings. I mean, not to overthink this, but there's a reason a ton of
1:28.7	people became socialist, or social Democrats at least, Democratic Socialists a century ago, as they saw the plutocrats, right? I mean, it is like not, that is not, that is a real thing. And I do feel like we're reliving this a little bit. I'm not quite, I'm still anti-Zororan, and anti-ant-zor.
1:25.0	I'm trying to keep both.
1:26.7	But the Beaudet, what was it, just grotesque? little bit. I'm not quite as... I'm still anti-Zororan and anti-ant-ant-zor-I.
1:44.2	You can be bold. I'm trying to keep both. But the basis, what was it, just grotesque and it cost $50 million? Yeah. And he's like, he invited Trump because he's sucking up, if Trump didn't go, but he's like sucking up to him because he wants the rocket money. And it's like, do we Does the
1:40.8	whatever
1:41.7	second
1:42.2	richest man
1:42.8	in the world
1:43.2	third need
1:44.0	government
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