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conversations you can have in and about therapy.

Through personal experiences, guests will talk about therapy, their experiences with it, and how psychology and

therapy are present in many places in their lives, with lots of authenticity and a

touch of humor. Here is your host, Steve Bissant.

Thank you, sir. And welcome to episode 144. If you haven't listened to episode 143 go back and listen to it Liz Kelly talks about her book

I can't wait for for you guys to read it. It's really good. This book is cheaper than therapy

But on episode 144 it will be with someone I've known for a from another company we work together at and we hadn't really touched base in a long time. Her name is Ivana Colangelo.

I hope I said her first name, right?

She'll let me know in the interview, I'm sure.

She's a licensed marriage and family therapists

with therapy and coaching practices in Rochester, New York, where she lives with her

husband, her three-year-old daughter, and two rescue dogs. She is a certified Terry Reels relationship life therapy. I hope I said that right. If I didn't she'll talk about it.

An approach that considers the influence of patriarchy on how we relate to ourselves and others.

Ivana believes in the quality of our relationship, the term on how we relate to ourselves and others.

Ivana believes in the quality of our relationship determines the quality of our life.

So I'm looking forward to hearing that and someone I really respect, if you go watch her on

Instagram, I think that she has great reels and I think it's

masculinity Monday or toxic masculinity Monday or healthy masculinity Monday Monday

one or the three that's on on Monday.

So anyway, here is the interview with Ivana. Get Free.

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