Hey, fam, it is your loving host, Debo here. Welcome to the free troll podcast. Something a little different today,

a little crosscast action. I was on my friend Jonathan Levitt's podcast. We recorded here in

Olympic Valley on Monday, and it was a super, super enjoyable conversation. If you don't know,

Jonathan, he is a great character in the sport. He works for and has been

instrumental in building Inside Tracker, the brand, the company, the blood testing service. You've

heard me rave about on the podcast many times. Well, Jonathan is also an excellent creator and

podcaster himself.

His show is called For the Long Run.

If you haven't checked it out yet, make sure you do so.

He is an awesome interviewer, great conversator, always has awesome guests.

So go search for the long run in Apple Podcasts or Spotify and smash the subscribe button.

After we recorded on Monday, Jonathan asked if I wanted to share the pod in our feet as well.

I thought it was a great chat and a great idea.

So without further delay, here's me on the For the Long Run podcast.

See you all on the live stream on Saturday.

Love you very much.

It wasn't the path that she wanted,

sort of like what I mentioned about my own wife,

having a similar moment like that back in 2008 or so,

like even though you've got a comfortable gig, if it doesn't bring you joy, why are you doing it?

And having the confidence to bet on yourself in that situation and to align what you want to do with what you actually do.

Welcome to For the Long Run, the podcast exploring the why behind what keeps runners running

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